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IHSA Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes - 2006-07

Boys/girls volleyball Advisory Committee

November 21 , 2006

The IHSA Boys and Girls Volleyball Advisory Committee met at the IHSA Office, Bloomington, Illinois, on Tuesday, November 21, 2006, beginning at 10:00 a.m. Committee members attending were Deb Fisher, Brimfield; Jill Carter, Virginia; Gayle McRoberts, Pana (H.S.); Jennifer Propst, Casey (C. -Westfield); Pam Young, Chicago (Senn); Bill Schreier, Wheaton (W. Warrenville South); Kristy Pierce, Lanark (Eastland); and Jennifer Stanley, Carbondale (H.S.). Assistant Executive Director, Susan K. Hinrichsen was also in attendance. Not attending was Doug Blundy, Crystal Lake (Central).

TERMS AND CONDITIONS RECOMMENDATIONS

1. Item VI-B-4. – Tournament Structure and Time Schedules

            Recommendation:
            A.       2007-08 Girls Tournament Structure and Time Schedule
                        Session 1 semifinals
                        Match 1          Class 1A
                        Match 2          Class 1A
                        Match 3          Class 2A
                        Match 4          Class 2A

                        Session 2 Semifinals
                        Match 5          Class 3A
                        Match 6          Class 3A
                        Match 7          Class 4A
                        Match 8          Class 4A

                        Session 3 Consolation and Championships
                        Match 9          1A Consolation
                        Match 10        1A Championship
                                    Awards Ceremony
                        Match 11        2A Consolation
                        Match 12        2A Championship
                                    Awards Ceremony

                        Session 4 Consolation and Championships
                        Match 13        3A Consolation
                        Match 14        3A Championship
                                    Awards Ceremony
                        Match 15        4A Consolation
                        Match 16        4A Championship
                                    Awards Ceremony

Each year together the Class 1A/2A will flip flop with the Class 3A/4A

            B.        2008-09 Girls Tournament Structure and Time Schedule
                        Session 1 semifinals
                        Match 1          Class 3A
                        Match 2          Class 3A
                        Match 3          Class 4A
                        Match 4          Class 4A

                        Session 2 Semifinals
                        Match 5          Class 1A
                        Match 6          Class 1A
                        Match 7          Class 2A
                        Match 8          Class 2A

                        Session 3 Consolation and Championships
                        Match 9          3A Consolation
                        Match 10        3A Championship
                                    Awards Ceremony
                        Match 11        4A Consolation
                        Match 12        4A Championship
                                    Awards Ceremony

                        Session 4 Consolation and Championships
                        Match 13        1A Consolation
                        Match 14        1A Championship
                                    Awards Ceremony
                        Match 15        2A Consolation
                        Match 16        2A Championship
                                    Awards Ceremony

Approved

ADMINISTRATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS

Boys and girls seed meeting concerns were addressed with the following recommendations:
1. Include in the manual: Expectation of coaches in preparation for seeding
a. Complete the season summary sheet.
b. Review all season summary sheets prior to the seed meeting.
c. Rank the teams based on the IHSA factors.
d. Pay attention to the teams in your state series that you will be seeding during the regular season play.

2. Prioritize the seeding factors as follows:
The priorities in seeding are in rank order and are considered more important:
a. Season record, your record with teams assigned to your sectional complex (regional or sub-sectional in some cases) and common opponents.
b. Next in priority is strength of schedule
c. Least important in the factors for seeding is strength of players

If seeds are questioned, a coach must justify the seeds using only the record of the team, record of the teams it played in its sectional (regional or sub-sectional in some cases) and outcome of competition with common opponents. Seeds cannot be justified by using the last 2 priorities which are the strength of schedule or the strength of returning players.

d. Vote of coaches: While coaches are still required to complete the season summary sheet, it is recommended that coaches may abstain from voting at the seeding. Coaches who are not prepared to seed only hurt the true seeds of a tournament. Instead of making them come up with the seeds, allow them to abstain from seeding.

3. Out of Range Score Adjustments: Any seeds from a coach that are more than 2 points higher than the seed that occurs most often for a team, must automatically be adjusted up or down to be inside the range. Example, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 8 are the seeds for team A. The seed that occurs most often is #1. Since a seed can be no more than 2 above that, the 8 seed must be brought back into range which is 3. This score is automatically changed by the complex manager to 3.

Rationale: This addresses out of range scores at the seed meeting and also sets up a system that could be used in future online seeding.

4. Make a spreadsheet available online to sectional managers. Bill Schreier will get us the spreadsheet he uses for seeding meeting for managers to download from the IHSA website.

5. Currently the season summary sheet is a downloadable form. Make this form an interactive form that is available to schools prior to the seed meeting as it was done for online seeding experiment. This provides another transition into online scoring and allows coaches to view stats ahead of time and come prepared to the meeting and makes it easier for managers.

ITEMS OF GENERAL DISCUSSION:

1. The committee discussed if we should combine our super-sectionals so we have 1A/2A at one site, 3A/4A at one site. Therefore there would be 2 contests per super-sectional instead of one. There was concern with the seating for a 1A/2A site. Attendance has been good at each of these levels and the committee is not sure there are high school host sites that can handle the attendance. 3A and 4A schools have larger gymnasiums and seating.

2. The IHSA Sectional Complex Online Seeding Meeting Experiment was discussed by the committee and it concluded that it was well received. The outcome of the top 4 seeds from the online vs. the outcome of the traditional vs. the actual outcome was not exact but comparable for the top 4 seeds. If a system for managing scores that were “out of range” could be addressed, then online seeding would be something the committee would like to look at for volleyball. The committee made several recommendations to process with the idea of moving it into an online format.

3. The committee reviewed the Officials Training DVD, the NFHS rule changes, the NFHS libero serving experiment, and proposed NFHS rule recommendations for 2007-08 school year. Overall the committee approved of the new rule changes and the libero serving experiment. They favored allowing bobby pins, allowing an additional time out for game 3 of a 2-3 game match, allowing a contrasting border to make the entire number contrasting. They did not favor the ball being played below the waist, using a multicolored ball, eliminating insignificant contact at the net and providing the option for coaches to remain on the same side all match.

4. Awarded Gayle McRoberts, Jennifer Propst, Pam Young, Bill Schreier and Deb Fisher advisory committee service awards and thanked them for their work on the committee.